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Paul



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:42:00    Post subject: Select root of tree dialog Reply with quote

I think this could be improved by displaying the year of birth of individual rather than their ID number. I have several people with the same name in my tree so I have to go back to list view to find their ID number.

The latest build displays names in the dialog as GIVN SURN / SURN, GIVN - I'm not sure how much use that is??
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zebooka



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 23:11:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm using defined IDs and this helps a lot.

I_YYYY_LFS = Individual, Year of Birth, Last/Family (Maiden) + First + Second names first letters

F_YYYY_Family = Family, Year of marriage, Family name
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nmeier
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 18:22:46    Post subject: Re: Select root of tree dialog Reply with quote

Hi Paul

Paul wrote:
I think this could be improved by displaying the year of birth of individual rather than their ID number.
The latest build displays names in the dialog as GIVN SURN / SURN, GIVN - I'm not sure how much use that is??


please elaborate - I don't get what you're talking about ... yet Smile

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Paul



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:34:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Nils,

If I right-click and choose 'select root of tree' (in tree view of course!) the dialog I'm presented with has individuals listed thus in the drop-down box...

John Smith / Smith, John (I270)

If I have four of five John Smiths in my .GED how can I know which is which unless I switch back to list view?

If they were listed with dates it might be clearer which John Smith I wanted to set as root. Something like this ...

John Smith (1812 - 1855)
John Smith (1902 - 1990)
John Smith (1785 - )

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Paul
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nmeier
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 19:15:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, gotcha - I'll check in a change and build a test-version for you shortly

Thanks!
Nils
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Paul



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 15:04:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much better, thanks Nils!
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Paul



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:59:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using this a little while now and I think it could be further (but probably easily!) improved by putting the dates in parentheses as per my earlier post e.g. (1802 - 1874) or something like (1793 - ) or ( - 1920) where the birth or death is not known. Just a bit of concatenation I guess? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:53:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

parts of this is in the latest nightly as discussed - I'm also adding more details to picking families (is important when re-swiveling references).

FYI for everyone - a pic showing dates of folks and husband/wife for families (also sortable now):




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Peter from Germany



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 14:17:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nils

This is a very helpful improvement.
In former centuries our ancestors very often used the same given name for several generations, e.g. Johann I, II, III, IV and so on.

Peter
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sghoul



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:01:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

true it's a usefull enhancement.
but I hoped a more generic solution to be able to use given name and surname freely in the tree.

Displaying given name and surname on the same line (John Doe) makes the boxes very width (visible on a screen with big scrollbar and printable on more pages).

If we can display them on two lines, the management of a simplified tree will be still more friendly use Smile
John
Doe
1 Jan 1900
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Paul



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:32:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi sghoul, welcome to the forum!

If I understand you correctly you're talking about the display of names in Tree View? You can set this up to display your data in almost any way you choose by using 'blueprints' although these aren't yet in the new version Nils is working on.

For example, I often use a simple blueprint like this:

<table width=100%>
<tr>
<td align="center">
<prop path=INDI:NAME:GIVN>
<br>
<prop path=INDI:NAME:SURN>
<br>
<prop path=INDI:BIRT:DATE>
<br>
<prop path=INDI:DEAT:DATE>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
It looks like this in use:

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nmeier
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 21:41:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea, Paul

that means you have to manage SURN and GIVN manually though. I'd love to have a more flexible way to break up names into their individual components right from a blueprint ootb.

Sghoul, not sure when we can review this though.

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Paul



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:37:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

nmeier wrote:
I'd love to have a more flexible way to break up names into their individual components right from a blueprint ootb.


Drag and drop controls representing tags onto a blank sheet representing a tree display box?
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sghoul



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:50:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonjour Paul and Nils,

before sending my first message, I have tried with NAME:GIVN, without sucess.
With your code Paul, not better ("Something" is displayed). Maybe I haven't the right version. I tried with v2.4.5.
With v HEAD-20091205, which contains GIVN property, not better.
With v 2091229, I didn't succeed to find the parameterization button in the tree screen Sad

Merci and Bonne annèe


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Paul



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 14:21:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi sghoul and Happy New Year to you too!

EDIT: Just checked, the latest 2.x version just displays 'something' instead of actual GIVN or SURN data in the preview window - I never noticed that before! Just click 'apply' then close the blueprint window and all should be ok!

Paul
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sghoul



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 16:31:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Paul,

first, I think there is a little bug concerning GIVN and SURN; they are not displayed after a new install. It's possible to reporoduce it:
1. Delete the personal GenJ directory "C:\documents and settings\..." (like in a new install).
2. In the family tree, create a new individual Blueprint
3. if you try to insert tags, there is no GIVN nor SURN


4. You can set them manualy in the HTML field :
<prop path=INDI:NAME:GIVN>
<prop path=INDI:NAME:SURN>
5. Open the tags window again, and they are there Smile


Maybe Nils can have a look on this !

Now, even if I check them and close window, the boxes in the tree are empty.

Sami
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