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Paul

Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 75 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:42:00 Post subject: Select root of tree dialog |
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I think this could be improved by displaying the year of birth of individual rather than their ID number. I have several people with the same name in my tree so I have to go back to list view to find their ID number.
The latest build displays names in the dialog as GIVN SURN / SURN, GIVN - I'm not sure how much use that is?? |
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zebooka

Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Posts: 20 Location: Russia, Novosibirsk
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 23:11:29 Post subject: |
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Well, I'm using defined IDs and this helps a lot.
I_YYYY_LFS = Individual, Year of Birth, Last/Family (Maiden) + First + Second names first letters
F_YYYY_Family = Family, Year of marriage, Family name |
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nmeier Site Admin

Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 1488 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 18:22:46 Post subject: Re: Select root of tree dialog |
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Hi Paul
| Paul wrote: | I think this could be improved by displaying the year of birth of individual rather than their ID number.
The latest build displays names in the dialog as GIVN SURN / SURN, GIVN - I'm not sure how much use that is?? |
please elaborate - I don't get what you're talking about ... yet
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Nils |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 75 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:34:03 Post subject: |
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Hi Nils,
If I right-click and choose 'select root of tree' (in tree view of course!) the dialog I'm presented with has individuals listed thus in the drop-down box...
John Smith / Smith, John (I270)
If I have four of five John Smiths in my .GED how can I know which is which unless I switch back to list view?
If they were listed with dates it might be clearer which John Smith I wanted to set as root. Something like this ...
John Smith (1812 - 1855)
John Smith (1902 - 1990)
John Smith (1785 - )
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Paul |
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nmeier Site Admin

Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 1488 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 19:15:55 Post subject: |
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ok, gotcha - I'll check in a change and build a test-version for you shortly
Thanks!
Nils |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 75 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 15:04:07 Post subject: |
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| Much better, thanks Nils! |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 75 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:59:42 Post subject: |
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I've been using this a little while now and I think it could be further (but probably easily!) improved by putting the dates in parentheses as per my earlier post e.g. (1802 - 1874) or something like (1793 - ) or ( - 1920) where the birth or death is not known. Just a bit of concatenation I guess?  |
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nmeier Site Admin

Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 1488 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:53:10 Post subject: |
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Hi
parts of this is in the latest nightly as discussed - I'm also adding more details to picking families (is important when re-swiveling references).
FYI for everyone - a pic showing dates of folks and husband/wife for families (also sortable now):

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Peter from Germany

Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 126 Location: Munich
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 14:17:37 Post subject: |
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Nils
This is a very helpful improvement.
In former centuries our ancestors very often used the same given name for several generations, e.g. Johann I, II, III, IV and so on.
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sghoul
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 3 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:01:04 Post subject: |
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true it's a usefull enhancement.
but I hoped a more generic solution to be able to use given name and surname freely in the tree.
Displaying given name and surname on the same line (John Doe) makes the boxes very width (visible on a screen with big scrollbar and printable on more pages).
If we can display them on two lines, the management of a simplified tree will be still more friendly use
John
Doe
1 Jan 1900 |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 75 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:32:49 Post subject: |
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Hi sghoul, welcome to the forum!
If I understand you correctly you're talking about the display of names in Tree View? You can set this up to display your data in almost any way you choose by using 'blueprints' although these aren't yet in the new version Nils is working on.
For example, I often use a simple blueprint like this:
<table width=100%>
<tr>
<td align="center">
<prop path=INDI:NAME:GIVN>
<br>
<prop path=INDI:NAME:SURN>
<br>
<prop path=INDI:BIRT:DATE>
<br>
<prop path=INDI:DEAT:DATE>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
It looks like this in use:
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nmeier Site Admin

Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 1488 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 21:41:23 Post subject: |
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Good idea, Paul
that means you have to manage SURN and GIVN manually though. I'd love to have a more flexible way to break up names into their individual components right from a blueprint ootb.
Sghoul, not sure when we can review this though.
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Nils |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 75 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:37:42 Post subject: |
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| nmeier wrote: | I'd love to have a more flexible way to break up names into their individual components right from a blueprint ootb.
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Drag and drop controls representing tags onto a blank sheet representing a tree display box? |
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sghoul
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 3 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:50:15 Post subject: |
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Bonjour Paul and Nils,
before sending my first message, I have tried with NAME:GIVN, without sucess.
With your code Paul, not better ("Something" is displayed). Maybe I haven't the right version. I tried with v2.4.5.
With v HEAD-20091205, which contains GIVN property, not better.
With v 2091229, I didn't succeed to find the parameterization button in the tree screen
Merci and Bonne annèe
Last edited by sghoul on Fri Jan 01, 2010 16:32:30; edited 1 time in total |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 75 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 14:21:05 Post subject: |
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Hi sghoul and Happy New Year to you too!
EDIT: Just checked, the latest 2.x version just displays 'something' instead of actual GIVN or SURN data in the preview window - I never noticed that before! Just click 'apply' then close the blueprint window and all should be ok!
Paul |
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sghoul
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 3 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 16:31:40 Post subject: |
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Hi Paul,
first, I think there is a little bug concerning GIVN and SURN; they are not displayed after a new install. It's possible to reporoduce it:
1. Delete the personal GenJ directory "C:\documents and settings\..." (like in a new install).
2. In the family tree, create a new individual Blueprint
3. if you try to insert tags, there is no GIVN nor SURN
4. You can set them manualy in the HTML field :
<prop path=INDI:NAME:GIVN>
<prop path=INDI:NAME:SURN>
5. Open the tags window again, and they are there
Maybe Nils can have a look on this !
Now, even if I check them and close window, the boxes in the tree are empty.
Sami |
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